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Joystick sensitivity
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SC Tom
2006-02-06 11:28:44 UTC
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I just bought NFSMW and am having a little trouble controlling the cars. It
seems that the joystick is really sensitive to the slightest movement. Is
there any way to desensitize it some, or change the dead zones? I didn't see
anything in the options menu for it.
TIA,
SC Tom
Jeff Reid
2006-02-06 14:55:39 UTC
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I just bought NFSMW and am having a little trouble controlling the cars. It seems that the joystick is really
sensitive to the slightest movement. Is there any way to desensitize it some, or change the dead zones? I didn't see
anything in the options menu for it.
The steering with NFSMW is a bit wierd, maybe because it's supposed to work
with gamepads. You steer inwards to start a turn, but then you relax a
bit on the steering, and sometimes even have to steer outwards to keep
the car stabilized. Also don't lift on the throttle, the game's physics
rewards you for keeping the throttle floored or at least neutral while
turning.

According to the manual, and just the opposite of real life, using NOS
will reduce the oversteer as well. The game claims that the weight transfer
to the rear tires stops the oversteer, but this wouldn't work in real life,
unless a car had a very high center of gravity, it's just the game's physics
rules.
DavidB
2006-02-06 20:12:27 UTC
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Post by SC Tom
I just bought NFSMW and am having a little trouble controlling the cars.
It seems that the joystick is really sensitive to the slightest movement.
Is there any way to desensitize it some, or change the dead zones? I
didn't see anything in the options menu for it.
There are no dead zone or sensitivity settings in the game - even with a
correctly calibrated joystick it takes a lot of practice to get the hang of
steering. I use fire buttons for accelerator and brake, eliminating moving
the y-axis, and use the stick only for steering - I find it helps reduce the
amount of unwanted left/right movement.

DavidB
Jeff Reid
2006-02-07 13:21:13 UTC
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Post by DavidB
Post by SC Tom
I just bought NFSMW and am having a little trouble controlling the cars.
It seems that the joystick is really sensitive to the slightest movement.
There are no dead zone or sensitivity settings in the game - even with a
correctly calibrated joystick it takes a lot of practice to get the hang
of steering.
I'm using twin joysticks, left stick forward = throttle, left stick backwards
= brake, right stick left / right for steer. Lots of buttons for shifting,
lights, nos, handbrake, etc. It didn't take too long to adjust to NFS:MW,
once I figured out what was going on. NFS6:Hot Pursuit 2 was also like
this.

As I mentioned before, it's easier to control the cars of NFS:MW with
small steering impluses instead of smooth steering. Use brief inwards
steering pulses to get the cars to oversteer and turn, and if needed,
outwards steering pulses to get the cars to straighten out. Try to
find the minimum amount of steering input position and time to take
a turn, it's often less than you think it would be. The less you
yaw the car, the less speed is scrubbed off from tunring. I use bumper
cam, and fortunately, there's enough oversteer movment than you can
pick it up visually.

In my two most recent videos, I ran the BMW M3 GTR and the Porsche
Carerra GT, doing a single standing start lap at Country Club.
On the first long straight, just as the cars pass the construction
to the left, there's a left bend with a decreasing radius.
The BMW is doing about 199mph going into the left bend, and drops
to 193mph, very little steering input was needed for that bend.
The Carerra GT is going 230mph at this same point, and requires a
lot of steering input, dropping in speed down to 205mph in order
to make the turn, and I had to steer outwards a bit after the turn.
If you look carefully, you'll be able to pick up the oversteer /
yaw attitude of the cars while they are turning.

BMW M3 GTR video:
http://jeffareid.net/nfs9/n9ccbmw.wmv

Porsche Carerra GT video:
http://jeffareid.net/nfs9/n9ccpgt.wmv

A old pic of my setup, hasn't changed much (the screen shows a Mercedes
CLK GTR getting air time at the end of a run in NFS4).

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Jeff Reid
2006-02-07 13:41:39 UTC
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Post by Jeff Reid
http://jeffareid.net/nfs9/n9ccbmw.wmv
http://jeffareid.net/nfs9/n9ccpgt.wmv
Near the end of the lap, as the cars makes a right turn onto
a bridge, I'm using 2 or 3 inwards impulses to make what
appears to be a smooth turn with a slight increase in yaw
as I approach the bridge.

One other point is when at the limits and at full throttle, the
cars of NFS:MW are less prone to oversteer, just the opposite
of real life. Using NOS reduces the oversteer even more, this
is mentioned in the manual. Lift throttle cornering requires
using less steering inputs.

There are two spots in the videos where I lift on the throttle,
one at about 1/3rd through the track, a tight right right turn
through a roundabout, the other the right turn just after
the first set of tunnels. I set this up so I'm back on the throttle
near the apex of the turn. The cars will scrubb off a lot of
speed from turning, so you don't need to lift all that often.
Scott Johnson
2006-02-07 15:43:15 UTC
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Post by Jeff Reid
Post by DavidB
Post by SC Tom
I just bought NFSMW and am having a little trouble controlling the cars.
It seems that the joystick is really sensitive to the slightest movement.
There are no dead zone or sensitivity settings in the game - even with a
correctly calibrated joystick it takes a lot of practice to get the hang
of steering.
I'm using twin joysticks, left stick forward = throttle, left stick backwards
= brake, right stick left / right for steer. Lots of buttons for shifting,
lights, nos, handbrake, etc. It didn't take too long to adjust to NFS:MW,
once I figured out what was going on. NFS6:Hot Pursuit 2 was also like
this.
As I mentioned before, it's easier to control the cars of NFS:MW with
small steering impluses instead of smooth steering. Use brief inwards
steering pulses to get the cars to oversteer and turn, and if needed,
outwards steering pulses to get the cars to straighten out. Try to
find the minimum amount of steering input position and time to take
a turn, it's often less than you think it would be. The less you
yaw the car, the less speed is scrubbed off from tunring. I use bumper
cam, and fortunately, there's enough oversteer movment than you can
pick it up visually.
In my two most recent videos, I ran the BMW M3 GTR and the Porsche
Carerra GT, doing a single standing start lap at Country Club.
On the first long straight, just as the cars pass the construction
to the left, there's a left bend with a decreasing radius.
The BMW is doing about 199mph going into the left bend, and drops
to 193mph, very little steering input was needed for that bend.
The Carerra GT is going 230mph at this same point, and requires a
lot of steering input, dropping in speed down to 205mph in order
to make the turn, and I had to steer outwards a bit after the turn.
If you look carefully, you'll be able to pick up the oversteer /
yaw attitude of the cars while they are turning.
http://jeffareid.net/nfs9/n9ccbmw.wmv
http://jeffareid.net/nfs9/n9ccpgt.wmv
A old pic of my setup, hasn't changed much (the screen shows a Mercedes
CLK GTR getting air time at the end of a run in NFS4).
http://members.cox.net/jeffareid/setup.jpg
Dang! my cars catch too much air, either spin out or flip over, and usually
crash into something. LOL!
SC Tom
2006-02-08 22:08:46 UTC
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Post by SC Tom
I just bought NFSMW and am having a little trouble controlling the cars. It
seems that the joystick is really sensitive to the slightest movement. Is
there any way to desensitize it some, or change the dead zones? I didn't
see anything in the options menu for it.
TIA,
SC Tom
Never mind, I just uninstalled the game. This one is probably the worst
version to be released after NFSPU (still my favorite). What used to be a
really great driving and racing game has deteriorated into an update of
Sega's old Outrun. Too bad; I really liked the realism and great graphics EA
was moving towards.

SC Tom
Vandar
2006-02-09 20:48:54 UTC
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Post by SC Tom
Post by SC Tom
I just bought NFSMW and am having a little trouble controlling the cars. It
seems that the joystick is really sensitive to the slightest movement. Is
there any way to desensitize it some, or change the dead zones? I didn't
see anything in the options menu for it.
TIA,
SC Tom
Never mind, I just uninstalled the game. This one is probably the worst
version to be released after NFSPU (still my favorite). What used to be a
really great driving and racing game has deteriorated into an update of
Sega's old Outrun. Too bad; I really liked the realism and great graphics EA
was moving towards.
Can't say I blame you for that. The physics and realism in the game are
atrocious and the gameplay is stagnant and stale.
razor sharp
2006-02-14 04:18:25 UTC
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if u have upgraded ur car with transmission and suspension! pause the
game move across 2 performence tuning and adjust ur steering and
handling

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